Today is August 10, 2010. It has been 16 months and 4 days since the last minutes posting from a selectmen meeting. They DO still have them weekly( or weakly?) do they not?
So where are the minutes? Well asking at the town hall will do you no good, Barbara Snicer will merely look at you with her best "Why are you bothering me with this petty crap" look, and tell you sweetly that they have sent the minutes over to the webmaster many times, he must be busy.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
We have a website that we pay almost $40/month to HOST! We could host our site on many servers for $4- 6.00/mo. ANd get 1200 email addresses to boot. In short, as usual the taxpayers are paying too much for too little.
For short money we could be hosting the actual videos of selectmen's meetings online we could show them in real time, for the roughly one third of the town that does not pay for cable.
How about you guys do the EASY thing, and post the damn minutes!
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Absolutely agree! Wow! Everyone at town hall needs to be booted out and start fresh with people who DONT have agendas and sticks up their...
Let's replace the entire town--just to be on the safe side! Duh!
Only half the town has cable.
If they post, they are questioned about stuff. They don't like that.
They will be gone soon, the root of the problem is getting old.
We just need to replace the statistical 4% who are sociopaths.
I am sorry to the whiners, but I have to agree with the article.
When I chaired the budget committee, I would send Don Roberts the minutes the next day after they were approved, and they were ALWAYS on the website within 24 hours.
The problem is not with the webmaster, it is with the town officials that don't particularly want them up there.
Budget isn't up to date either, and they have removed selective minutes from 2005/06.
Why?
Where are all the Right To Know requests involving the dissolution of the Town Conflict of Interest Committee.
What about the police reports that are incomplete, distorted, or plain not supplied.
We need a new town government that is willing to obey the law. We need a town administrator who keeps his word and supplies documents and makes damn sure selectmen's meetings are posted according to the laws of the state.
If Don is not volunteering his time anymore, why can't the technology committee post the minutes, or someone at town hall ?
Blaming a VOLUNTEER is just wrong.
No, actually a sociopath is one who does wrong and has no remorse, doesn't care who they hurt. Look it up since you do not understand the meaning of the term.
so, Leon, please tell what happened in court today. Many would like to know.
Sure Maggie, You and Daniel Lied under oath, contradicted yourselves too many times to count, and even though you both proved yourselves to be liars, there still was no direct evidence of aggravated assault, seeing as you never produced the right umbrella, just as there was no evidence that I tried to run you and your husband over. But it was nice to get on the record that that whole story was a lie too.
Mr. Artus also had proof for the court that you have no ownership rights to Mrs. Davis' property! No deeded right of way, nothing! Another lie. And all of it under oath
I will not attempt to pass judgment upon the allegations of lying, but if there is some incontrovertible proof that the Osborns do not "own" either the underlying land upon which their driveway is built, nor a "deeded right of way" to "pass and repass" over said land, as has been consistently claimed, then that would create real problems for the Osborns.
It would mean that;
1.) They presented false circumstances upon which their building permit was issued.
2.)They had no standing to make any of their accusations against Mrs. Davis, her family members, or Mr. Artus, as they had no right to be on that property either.
3.)It would also mean that they cut timber they did not own, deprived that person of the value and ownership of their own land, disposed of another's assets without their permission, devalued another's property for their own personal benefit, leaving said property owner with a non-conforming lot that is now too small to sell, or transfer, rendering it valueless as a whole.
A Multitude fo problems arise for the Osborns, if it can proved that they have no rights to Mrs. Davis' land, also a multitude of legal problems for the town, most of which would naturally arise from the misguided actions of the ZBA, in granting the permits, variances, exceptions, etc. for a project which the applicant did not even own the property.
Leon Artus says:
To everyone that reads this blog, I am not responsible for the posting of August 13, 2010 8:48 AM that was attributed to me.
To the person that actually wrote that posting, I do not appreciate you pretending to be me. In addition, the person writing that posting has inside information regarding what happened in court yesterday, because during the hearing it was clear to me that the Osborns did contradict themselves, they did not produce the “correct umbrella,” and did not produce any direct evidence that I tried to “assault” them or “run them over.” It is also true that I did have evidence proving that the Osborns have no ownership or right-of-way interests over any part of Carol Davis’ land. Those statements in the 8:48 AM posting are accurate from my point of view. I make no comment as to the remainder of the posting or any of the implications contained therein.
I would like to know how whoever made 8:48AM post got all of the specific information about what happened, the same day of the hearing.
Again, I Leon Artus states that I did not write the anonymous posting of August 13, 2010 8:48 AM, but I want to know who did.
Leon just let your imagination wander a bit and I'm suggesting its some one in town with close ties to the court. Court workers have big mouths and obligations to these same close people. The question is this, how far do you think it might from the top of the legal chain in town politics?
Jeez, I thought Frank was the top of the legal food chain in Atkinson
Frank Polito and Maggie Osborn. Return to the ZBA committee and build again for Maggie. The Board of Selectmen will back you.
We don't need little people in Atkinson without money so MOVE!
It clear that Leon posted the remarks on August 13, 2010 at 8:48am. He mistakingly revealed himself in what he intended to be anonymous. He is back tracking because of his slandering remarks again about the Osborn's. The Osborn's need to be informed and file a defamation claim against him.
To Anon @ 8:02;
I am re-reading the post from 8:48, and wondering where the slander and defamation is?
I mean, given the fact that the town has been arguing for 4 years that a selectman, making up stories about a resident out of whole cloth and telling them from his official position in official meetings is just "expressing his opinion", it would be kind of hard to make defamation stick.
In order for the Osborns to make a defamation claim they FIRST have to prove that what was said was said by the person they are claiming, and second, that it is untrue, resulted in damages, and the person KNEW it to be untrue.
Tough standards.
These people steal somebodys land, cut their trees, turn their naighbors into the police for crimes, and they are the victims? How does that work?
The bottom line here is that the Town is allowing these situations (via their incompetence) to develop into legal and financial disasters. When the corruption comes to a head, the PD steps in and botches everything.
There were two arrests that should never have happened. The Osbornes should have been arrested the minute they embarked on their criminal trespass spree.
This pD doesn't even know what is criminal and what is civil. Every last one of these cops are complicit and are part of the problem.
The rank and file officers do their level best to be professional, but it is difficult with incompetent and untrained leadership
Yeah, well how can you sell yourself out for a paycheck every week and look in the mirror and not admit you are also part of the problem.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...
Let people who watch idly as the honest are victimized, congratulate themselves.
Do you realize that if the selectmen just followed the town discipline policy, Phil never would have been allowed to bully his critics, resulting in at least 5 separate lawsuits.
If the selectmen AND Franks ZBA had simply acted upon State law and town ordinance, Mrs. Davis would still have her property and the Osborns would still be crying victim because they were not allowed to submit plans for one house to get their permit, then build a house almost twice as big, and still whine that the town was screwing them.
Only in Atkinson, and Only because the selectmen refuse to enforce laws equally.
Amen!
Is this a case of the Squeaky Wheel gets to steal others property, while the Three Monkeys set behind their desks on Monday night?
Listen up. If the lady didn't want her land stole and ripped up she should of been using it. Since she wasn't using it they had full right to cut down the trees and dig it.
Like I told my boy. Go head and steal that lawnmower cause if the old lady didn't want it stolen she wouldnt left it outside.
same hear. The lady deserved to get her land stole cause she left it outside.
none of you do good nut jobs come and say nothin cause the police and the guys in town making da rules is on MY side.
August 15, 2010 9:22 AM: You are either joking or gravely ignorant and need to go back to school to learn how to write. Which is it?
To Aug 14 9:32 PM...
What role did Frank and the ZBA have in the Osborn / Davis driveway dispute?
He gave them the permit and did not require proof of ownership.
Pelham police investigate possible abduction attempt
By Terry Date
tdate@eagletribune.com
PELHAM — Police are investigating a possible child abduction attempt yesterday afternoon in the Highland Avenue area.
About 4:30 p.m., police received a report that a woman driving a sport utility vehicle asked an 8-year-old child to get in the vehicle and go for a ride.
The boy declined, ran home and told his parents of the encounter. They called police.
The boy described the vehicle as being like a Ford Explorer or Chevy Blazer, possibly light blue with rusty side steps, police said.
He reported a partial New Hampshire registration of 150-0617, police said. The child said the woman had blonde hair, a pale complexion and looked to be about 30 years old, police said.
The child said he did not know the woman, police said. The boy said the incident took place on Highland Avenue off Bridge Street and across from Willow Street, police said.
Detectives were interviewing the child for more information and following up on leads as of yesterday evening.
Anyone who was in the Highland Avenue area at the time of the call or may have seen the vehicle is asked to call Pelham police at 635-2411.
Chief, call Pelham and explain that this was no abduction attempt and no one was in any danger.
When it was brought to the ZBA's attention that the Osborns did not own the property which they were trying to build a driveway on, Frank first included the provision that they prove ownership of the underlying land before a building permit would be issued, at the final hearing on the issuance of the permit, he removed that provision claiming that the ZBA did not deal with ownership issues. He granted, and the board voted approval of the building permit providing they completed a direct access to a class V rd.(chase island rd.) Hence their driveway.
Criminal charges should be brought against Frank Polito for aiding and abetting the stealing of another taxpayer’s property while acting in his professional capacity. That's the opinion of many in town.
I agree. Who, in their right mind would issue a permit when there was such a serious issue on the table? He, as a Town official, ignored the problem and issued the thing...and here we are now. The Town is complicit.
That's great info. I want to build a garage but half will be on my abutter's land. Since I now know that the ZBA doesn't consider property rights my permit should sail through. And since my Alsheimer abutter lives in Florida nobody can stop the ZBA and the town from giving me my permit and right to build right where I want. Right?
But do I have to volunteer for the ZBA for this to work or wait until Mr. Polito heads it again or is the policy set so I can just lay back?
Didnt Maggie Osborn used to sit on the ZBA with Frank? or maybe it was planning board, I cant remember
You can build the garage if you are friends of the PD, then they will protect you when the owner comes back and tries to get you arrested.
I recently had the fortunate experience of being enlightened (or educated) as to what evil Atkinson ZBA is currently conspiring to unleash upon the world. I would now like to share that experience with you. Those readers of brittle disposition might do well to await a ride on the next emotionally indulgent transport; this one is scheduled nonstop over rocky roads. As soon as you're strapped in I'll announce something to the effect of how Atkinson ZBA once had the audacity to tell me that pernicious bigamists and amateurish crybabies (especially the unsophisticated type) should rule this country. My riposte was that it's like an evil genius except without the "genius" part. Let me express that same thought in slightly different terms: I don't know what makes Atkinson ZBA think that it understands the difference between civilization and savagery. Maybe it's been sipping cuckoo juice. The fact of the matter is that Atkinson ZBA seeks scapegoats for its own shortcomings by blaming the easiest target it can find, that is, slimy dirtbags.
It's not necessarily difficult to get the Atkinson ZBA monkey off our backs and off other people's backs as well. We can begin simply by illustrating the virtues that it lacks—courage, truthfulness, courtesy, honesty, diligence, chivalry, loyalty, and industry. See? I told you it wasn't necessarily difficult. We just need to remember that if you can go more than a minute without hearing Atkinson ZBA talk about Marxism, you're either deaf, dumb, or in a serious case of denial. Unfortunately, huffy miscreants who glorify the things that everyone else execrates make no effort to contend with the inevitable consequences of that action. Anyway, I hope I've made my point, which is that I leave open the question of the extent to which this discussion could be applied to mendacious snollygosters.
did you get that?
Understand that the Osborns are on their last legs of their court case with Carol Davis. News around town is "It's ALL OVER" but the shouting. Know that MAGGIE won't respond on the news, soooooooooooo stay tuned for the final bell to ring.
BTY Maggie won't tell you that the next court date is Sept 1st, so all that would like to take the day off to see for yourselves what happens............be there.
Could be thats when the SMELLY FISH will be put out beside the road for pickup.
Couldn't happen to better people.
jmho
Did it seem odd to any of the viewers to last night BOS meeting that Chief Consentino was lurking in the back til the end? I missed his presentation can anyone enlighten me?
What presentation?
Why we need another car?
Why we need the Lt. as Chief?
Why the Lt. needs to get paid by the town while on military duty?
What's the spin now?
With CON-SENTINO LURKING in the back of the room spreading HATE AND DISCONTENT...............HANG ONTO YOUR WALLETS............he wants to steal more money from you. He is the OBAMA of Atkinson.
mo
Probably wants HIS HEALTH CARE PAID FOR MY THE TAXPAYERS. Watch the Selectmen too, they will give it to him.
Anyone notice that CON-sentino took down the Lynch sign in front of his house? Wonder if Lynch asked him to do it. Notice that he left the Dowling for sheriff sign up? Know who I'm not voting for now.
The ZBA does not issue Building Permits and does not grant one's property rights to another.
The Building Inspector, under the BOS issues Building Permits.
The ZBA approved redevelopment of the Osborn's lot conditioned on (among other things) their ability to satisfy fire safety access requirements.
That the Osborns may have violated another's property rights in their attempt to comply had no sanction from the ZBA... it is a civil matter between two private parties.
If, as some have alleged, the Osborns built a larger house than permitted (or violated any other ZBA stipulation), that enforcement lies with the Building Inspector & BOS.
It is like when a judge suspends one's driver's license... judges don't go out enforcing that sentence, it is the duty of the police to catch violators. Same here... the Building Inspector and BOS are charged with enforcing the terms approved by the ZBA.
and they are looking the other way.
when we have to chase them to do their job and take responsibility, it's very bad for all of us.
i often wonder what they did that we don't know about yet.
hey anon 2:09 (Leon) I'm surprised you havent started an I hate the Osbornes campaign in the eggies section of this blog,,,,,I can't wait til you get yours can you unscramble this 3 letter acronym? w.d.i
acronyms don't have periods after each letter.
get an education.
Yeah Leon, wait until you get your due. The nerve of you trying to help a good neighbor when she was being run over by despicable others...and getting arrested trying to protect her too.
I hope you get yours Leon, every last cent of damages.
HEy 2:09
Problem with your description is that ORIGINALLY one of the conditions was to prove ownership of the underlying land. FRANK on his own removed that condition, stating that ownership was a civil matter, and not the boards purview.
In our opinion just another one of Polito's intentional (mistakes?) to cover one of his board member's illegal taking of another's property with Phil CON-sentio"s and board of selectmen's approval to protect one of their own. There is NO OTHER explanation for it. Those people need to be prosecuted along with the OSBORNS. Selectmen...........want to deny it? Post now or forever hold you mouth.
Our guess is u will hold your mouth and be held accountable in court. PLEASE post here OR have your court hearing posted here after.
Our guess is you will wait. Not what you were elected for.
mo
ps SUGGEST NOT VOTEING FOR builders, selectmen, OR anyone that public officials support.
Mo
Ummm, most recent elections have seen one candidate running unopposed. If you don't vote for those you've cited, who will you vote for?
Ever heard of write-in's?
Osborns in court today, ordered not to use new driveway or house, they fall again.
Anon September 1, 2010 11:35 AM is stating misinformation when he/she says:
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“Osborns in court today, ordered not to use new driveway or house, they fall again”.
Leon Artus says:
The actual hearing was scheduled and held in front of Judge Lewis at 1 PM today with both attorneys arguing for summary judgment for their clients.
Osborn’s attorney argued that a right of way depicted on Mrs. Davis’s plot plan gave them the right to cut her trees and drive a road through her property because the road could be accepted by prescription at a later date without being offered or accepted.
Carol Davis’s attorney argued that the right of way was a depiction only and was never offered or accepted so prescription doesn’t apply. In addition, a Land and Boundaries report states that Carol Davis never offered or gave any rights to her property to anyone at anytime.
Judge Lewis took the case under advisement and I’m sure he’ll turn it over to his law clerks to research the factual cases that apply to this case. Don’t be surprised if his decision isn’t available for weeks. Depending on his decision the next trial date is November 9 & 10 at 8 AM. If he decides in favor of Carol Davis the Osborns will be done unless, of course they appeal to the Supreme Court.
I will keep you informed when the decision is made.
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