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Friday, September 21, 2012
Town wins against Osborns, but THEY win TOO!
Article submission please.
Supreme Court Decision of Osborn Appeal
. The direct address of the court's home
page is: http://www.courts.state.nh.us/supreme.
THE SUPREME COURT OF NEW HAMPSHIRE
___________________________
Rockingham
No. 2011-085
TOWN OF ATKINSON
v.
MALBORN REALTY TRUST & a.
Argued: June 13, 2012
Opinion Issued: August 17, 2012
Sumner F. Kalman, Attorney at Law, P.C., of Plaistow (Thea S. Valvanis
and Sumner F. Kalman on the brief, and Mr. Kalman orally), for the petitioner.
McGrath Law Firm, P.A., of Concord (Peter McGrath and Jason Beecher
on the brief, and Mr. McGrath orally), for the respondents.
CONBOY, J. The respondents, Malborn Realty Trust and its trustee,
Daniel Osborn, appeal an order of the Superior Court (McHugh, J.) that
enjoined Osborn from occupying property in Atkinson because he lacks an
occupancy permit and that imposed a civil penalty for this violation. See RSA
676:15 (2008), :17 (Supp. 2011). The petitioner, Town of Atkinson (Town),
cross-appeals the trial court’s failure to award it attorney’s fees. See RSA
676:17, II. We affirm the trial court’s issuance of the injunction, modify its
imposition of civil penalties, reverse its denial of attorney’s fees, and remand.
The trial court found the following facts. Before 2007, the subject
property was a seasonal camp. In June 2007, the Town’s zoning board of
adjustment granted Osborn a variance to convert the property to year-round
use and to construct a new three-bedroom home. One condition of the
variance was that access to the property had to “meet the requirements of the
Police and Fire Departments.”
In 2008, Osborn applied for a building permit. The Town’s fire chief
reviewed the application and recommended that the building permit be
conditioned upon the installation of a sprinkler system because the property
had poor access to a class V highway. See RSA 229:5 (2009) (setting forth
highway classification system). The building inspector adopted this
recommendation, and, in May 2008, issued the conditional building permit.
On September 30, 2008, Osborn’s wife, Margaret, met with the Town’s
fire chief to discuss the Osborns’ plan to improve access to the property by
constructing a new driveway. The fire chief agreed that a satisfactory driveway
could eliminate the need for a sprinkler system.
In October 2008, the Osborns submitted a proposed plan to build a
driveway with a 23% grade, which the Town immediately rejected. In
subsequent meetings, the fire chief told Margaret that although the required
grade was 8%, he would accept a driveway with a 10% grade. The Osborns
never submitted a satisfactory driveway plan to the fire chief. Ultimately,
without the fire chief’s consent, they installed a driveway with a 13.7% grade.
They did not install a sprinkler system. Because the home lacked the required
sprinkler system, the Town declined to issue a certificate of occupancy for it.
Nonetheless, the Osborns moved into the home on November 30, 2009.
According to the Town’s building code, it is unlawful to occupy a building
without a certificate of occupancy.
On or about December 14, 2009, the Town served Osborn with notice
that occupying the home violated the Town’s building code. The notice stated
that the Town could bring an enforcement action under RSA 676:15 and an
action for civil penalties and attorney’s fees under RSA 676:17. In March 2010,
the Town filed such an action. Later that month, following a hearing on the
Town’s request for a preliminary injunction, the court ordered Osborn to vacate
the premises. He and his family did so on July 1, 2010.
After conducting a bench trial and a view of the premises, the trial court:
(1) permanently enjoined Osborn from occupying the premises without a
certificate of occupancy; (2) ruled that no certificate of occupancy could be
issued until a sprinkler system is installed in the house; and (3) imposed a civil
penalty of $109,725. The trial court also ruled that the Town was the
prevailing party and was entitled to its reasonable attorney’s fees pursuant to
RSA 676:17, II. Although the court originally awarded the Town reasonable
attorney’s fees of $20,000, it later vacated this award in its entirety in response
to the respondents’ motion for reconsideration. This appeal and cross-appeal
followed.
The respondents challenge the trial court’s decision to issue the
requested injunction and, alternatively, its calculation of the civil penalty. In
its cross-appeal, the Town challenges the trial court’s denial of its request for
an award of reasonable attorney’s fees. We first address the respondent’s
appeal.
For those of you unfamiliar with this case, here are the headlines.
The Osborns bought 3 small lake lots up on Valcat ln., and combined them to build a McMansion on the property. Originally they were approved for a 1,400 sq.ft. house because of the lot size, and it's inaccessibility to fire emergency equipment. They PROMISED to install a sprinkler system in exchange for approval for a 2,600 sq.ft. home. ONE condition was that they had to have direct access to a Class V road. They CLAIMED they did, not mentioning that they had to destroy Carol Davis property to lay it across her land to comply.
They did, and Mrs. Davis sued, won, and they lost their pretty new illegal driveway.
In the mean time, they CHANGED the plans they submitted to get their building permit, hiring Silverlake associates to design a 4,000 sq.ft. McMansion. In spite of the fights with the town, as they tried to wiggle out of their promise to install the sprinkler system, they built the current 4,000 sq.ft. home, while building their driveway across Mrs. Davis' land.
Although the town refused to give them an occupancy permit without reducing the grade to comply with their permit (8%), the town later relaxed this to 10%, NEITHER of which they met, They MOVED INTO THEIR NEW HOME! They cut down the top of the ridge along Valcat ln, by approximately 10 ft. in their quest to reduce the grade, but the closest they could come was a 13.9% grade. Not enough for fire trucks to make it up.
So to summarize;
They applied and got a permit to build a 2,600 sq.ft. home with a sprinkler system, and direct access to a Class V road, with no more than an 8% grade.
They then redesigned the home to approximately 4,000 sq.ft., with NO sprinkler system, NO direct access, NO 10% grade, and they DESTROYED their neighbors land to do so. AND they have been living illegally in the house for most of 3 years!
They lost their case with Mrs. Davis. They Lost their case with the town. but here is the sad part. The Town SHOULD have received a fine of $275 the first day they were living in the house illegally, and $575 every successive day. BUT, because of how Sumner filed this, and the notification of this fine system the town was shorted this money, only being eligible for $50,000 in fines, and $20,000 in legal fees. Had the town PROVED they were living in the house illegally all that time, the fines would have been around the $500,000 mark.
Corruption lives and thrives in Atkinson. As does Crappy Neighbors!
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Not to mention that Carol Davis has never been paid the judgement she won for damage to her land.
Nor has the Town been paid their legal fees, fines, etc.
Nobody has said if they are now still living there on the land or in the house. The town should do all they can to recover its money. The first one to get the damage money should be Carol Davis. If not then the town can repair the damage to her property from the money they receive. I have a feeling the Osborn's will declare bankruptcy if they haven't already run to the courts to do it.
I heard they agreed to install sprinklers, after all the needless trouble. It's sad that they hurt Mrs. Davis and they have not paid her.
Why would they agree to spend more money to install a sprinkler system when they still couldn't qualify for an Occupancy Permit? How much political "PULL" do they believe they have left to pull that off?
Do they still believe their close PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP with Phillip Consention and our board of selectmen will get them what they NEED?
Our Selectmen have the POWER to forgive all the monies the COURTS have awarded after our legal budget lines paid for these suits. Does anyone believe that the current board will not do this in a closed session of that board?
Consentino rules. He controls all the boards inclucing the selectmen to gets what He wants. Anyone doubt this?
How obtuse.
My bet is AFTER they install the sprinkler system and pay the fines and legal costs, the town will CONVENIENTLY FORGET that they have a house almost THREE TIMES what they were permitted to build, and THAT permit was only approved because they claimed to have direct access to a classV road, through Mrs. Davis land.
WITHOUT THAT their permit was only for 1,400 sq.ft.
Around the corner they just made Mr. Mason tear down part of his garage because it was too big, why wouldn't they do the same to the Osbornes?
I think they are targeting certain individuals, so what else is new. They are still not going after other conected people who did work without permits. NOT that I am saying that is right, because it's not. My point is that they need to be consistent and force the other non conformers to straighten out their problems.
Another all night gun party at 21Meditaion Lane.
Sprinkler system installed or not they more than deserve to be held to the fines and costs of the case. This is the time to do make them accountable for the trouble they cost. If they can't afford to pay then it will cause them to finally move from the immediate area. That would be the best for both the Osborn and Davis families. How would you like to live next door to any person[s] you have the most dislike for only to see them day after day? If the Osborn's can't afford to meet their obligations to the town and Davis then how can they afford to sprinkler the house ? The town should take steps to receive the monies it and all associated fees owed by the Osborn's or take the property over. The town can then auction or sell it off to the highest bidder. That alone will send a message to the "Conman" and his cronies to stop the favoritism of the certain few in town. There can be no better thing in town government than honesty and openness which seems to be lacking in town . - BOS get to doing your oath taken jobs as it should be done!!
Question : Is the obligation to pay the courts awards before the Osborn's can spend any money they may have on a sprinkler system to live in the house?
If the Town and Mrs. Davis put liens on the house. The liens would be first in line to be paid after the mortgage. Mrs. Davis, get your lien based on the judgement, the Superior Court Clerk can give you th epaperwork to file with a copy of the judgement. Just do it!
First of all I don't think Osbornes would file bankrupcy, or even have to. They have the money to pay, they just don't want to. They want to go around the system. I am sure they are contemplating another way to go to court for another stupid reason to waste the court's time, and Atkinson taxpayers budgeted monies. I do agree that Davis, and the Town should levy a lien on the island property and their unpermitted home. In the event they ever need to refinance, or possible sell it would have to be paid. Also questioning why isn't the Town levying second offense fines if they are still living there? If house is liened, and they don't pay the fines to the Town within the 3 yr term, then I think the Town can sell at auction. Bank, Town, and Davis must get paid. The Mcmansion would certainly bring enough cash, and Town could then make a huge profit. If this scenerio were to happen maybe they will cough up the cash. I don't think the Town is going to for go the fine. There are too many people watching what they do now, and there are other avenues to uphold what needs to be done. Also, so many other issues with the property that still have to be addressed besides the sprinkler system.This certainly needs to go public with current news channel. Our Town is embarrassing on the way things are handled. Public embarrassement of a Town may make them uphold what they are supposed to do, or maybe even resign, and get people who have BALLS...
BOS Attorney Sumner Kalman doesn't seem to be interested in buying The Pond View restaurant in Kingston. It's been closed for a while now. Maybe he'd be interested in bidding on the Osborne property and help get these foolish people out of town for good.
By Atkinson's building and ZBA regulations, the Osborns are only entitled to have a 1400 sf house on that property. The ZBA permitted them to build a 2600 sf house without proof that the Osborn's owned a right of way across Carol Davis's property.
The Osborns built a 6600 sf house that they are still living in after a judge ordered them out.
The selectmen, ZBA, planning board, and code enforcement all know these facts are true, yet do nothing to enforce our regulations. The question should be why? Are they all incompetent, stupid, or just corrupt? If that house is not cut back to 1400sf before an OC is given, then we will know they are corrupt and the lawsuits will be flying again.
Mr. Mason best keep his eye on how the selectmen treat the Osborns and keep his attorney retained. Selective enforcement perhaps?
Let's get back to ANON 9/23 at (;11 post, are you suggesting others have gotten away with building code violations or even lack of permits? What would Chief Michael Murphy say about this if he knew? What would he say if the violator was sitting across from him on Thanksgiving day and Christmas morning? HMMMM
What are you implying?
Let the chips fall where they may. You already know what was meant by the comment is all that I'm going to say. Law is law and equality is the balance of equal treatment in the law for all to obide in. The lady holding the scales of justice may be blind folded but she isn't deaf.
anyone know what or who the man is talking about? I dont.
Fire Chief Murphy's Nepotism and Cronyism verses Police Chief Consentino's Nepotism and Cronyism would be my guess. Who's worse? You fill in the names.
3:51, Are you referring to 7:22am or some one else? Use the time stamp of the person you are writing about. 3:51pm Good question. You could be the one talked about . Then too you could be the one saying you [I dont] but do 7:01pm, You appear to an expert about the disease and it really shows. You seem to be a carrier of it. 710pm , You could be right about the fire chief . My money is on the "Conman" as the biggest of nepotism and cronyism guilt than anyone including the fire chief by a mile, may be more.
Can we clean up the act?
Is there an act?
I can't help to rescue you because I have no idea where you are or what is wrong with you. Can you give me a place to rescue you? The only one here that seems to be acting is you.
you both need to be rescued. Don't tell us where either of you are.
Ref 9/24 9:31...How did this house go from 1400 to 2600 to now 6600 sq feet? Town has no idea which one is correct? Are they being taxed for 1400 or the higher does anyone know?
Mr Mason should keep a close eye.
How about yourself ? Do you need rescuing more than them or are you really on top of things? Nice try dummy!!
Not sure what all the talk about the Fire Chief is, but isn't he the one who did not issue a permit. At least he stood his ground for the requirment needed by the state. Are you referring that he has relatives at holidays without permits? Wouldn't that be the other departments fault?
It sure would be another departments fault. Need you guess the department talked to by who?
I assure you I am not a dummy, and I don't need to be rescued. I am only trying to ask information, smart ass _ _ _ _!
Well than I am guessing it's the building department. So all this information comes out, so there must be a payoff, now they are caught.
Is Mike M related to Jones? or who? Killem?
8:08PM , The next time you go out stop in at town hall to get the information you are looking for. That is if your gutsy enough to do any thing with the information you acquire,if any.
It is hard to figure out all these posts.
However, I would like to point out that the Osborne's did this same thing, with approvals from the town, in Hemlock Heights and on the island property they own.
Built without a permit, built much larger than they got an approval for.
In addition when Mike Murphy was discussing the access road with the Osborns, he wasn't even aware that they did not have any rights to the property, despite the objections of the property owner Carole Davis. Ms Davis was told by the town that it was a civil matter, yet the Fire Chief choose to interact in a designated "civil matter" when it was in favor of the Osborns.
Again, the Town did a great disservice to Mrs. Davis and they allowed this to happen by pure stupidity of ignoring the fact of ownership. Ownership is fact, not opinion.
Yes this is something that needs to be resolved when "civil matters" come into action, but I don't see this every happening.
Yes 9:26 it is hard trying to figure out these posts. The suggestion of the time stamp to reply on any thing written by another is necessary. That does help stop the confusion and makes sure the person you are replying to can't be confused with some other persons writing.
If I only had a brain!
That's a fact and definitely a true statement coming from some body with some brain power to respond with!
For 7:15 to think they hadn't a brain just goes to show that they have one in order to have responded. I hope they get better mental health help and not just a bag full of pills from their help source. Just goes to show how many mental cases there are here in town. It could be someone from Medication/Meditation Lane.
A heart, a brain, and some courage.
Well, I just got laid off. I'm not voting for el Presidente Obama now. And I don't have a brain. It's on order.
This blog doesn't make sense it supposed to be opinions on the article and seems like it is war with words with a couple people. Can you post your opinion of the article and not go back and forth. Just say what you mean and who it's about. Thx
please dont forget about me when you walk on by
I'd like to intellectualize about the lack of intellectualism on behalf of the anons.
Phil, knock off the Cat comments. They are juvenile even for you.
Yeah, she sounds shallow.
Its well known that cats do not take to water. The inference by that nut is dirty from an even dirtier mind that shouldn't write here. The nut belongs in Lawrence where there are the kind of people of little size and stature as them self.
The cat chief sounds shallow too.
Your right!! Not all in Lawrence are as dirty and sexually perverted as the many more here in town given the population when comparing of the city of Lawrence and Atkinson. I wonder how many of these unbalanced hypocrites will attend Sunday services tomorrow .
Shallow, yes, a good description of some who write here.
More fireworks last night, sounded like Granite Ridge was at it again. Add them to the list of A$$holes with fire works.
Jerks
That was on Dow Ave, behind Meditation. They shoot them off early and carefully, away from homes. They are not on the list of abusers like those at 21 Meditation who shoot them off during the middle of the night out in the road.
I am sick and tired of the fireworks problem. They scare the dog, they scare the kids and they should be banned.
If people are shooting fireworks in the middle of the night, they must be on something.
Are there no noise regulations in Atkinson? Is there no police department? Oh, that's right their primary job is elderly care?
I called the police on them, they said it was at granite ridge again. I guess its been a problem there.
Jerks
I checked the police logs, nothing in there about fireworks or noise, just on Meditation. You should ask the PD why they are not publishing this if it's really true, go ahead and keep reporting it to them everytime you see it. See what happens then.
Nothing is worse than bad neighbors. I have been lucky, no noise, no crime and everyone respects each other. You never know who you will be stuck next to. For those who have to deal with fireworks, motorcycles, parties and all the other complaints, so sorry. I'd keep calling the police and I think they will respond.
I have a noisy neighbor who runs his leaf blower at 8AM, beeps everytime he comes and goes and can't talk without yelling.
It's better than the gun shot today at 7:15 in the morning on Meditation Lane.
I think they were hunting for crows. There have been alot in the area. Dont blame them.
Are you shifting from cat comments to crow comments today? No comment about the real issue of shooting guns in residential areas, just useless drivel.
Any thing to divert the calls of the noise [gun shots] that could be fatal. Fire works are one thing but firearms are another. A suggestion was made early on to call in the state police and county sheriffs to do the job of the APD if the APD do not want to handle the calls they are obligated to answer. Why is that I wonder? Oh!! I know the answer to that question its because they're among the 1% that are protected in town.
In all fairness, were they called? Did they respond, did they act? We do not know this and it is not fair to blame before we know what happened. I am quite sure that if someone is shooting guns, the PD has been told and they are on the lookout. In reality you have to catch a person in the act before something can be done.
BTW, who is going to call the Staties or others? We don't have the authority to command them here.
I have the authority, im on the conflict of Interest Comm. I can do anything I want. Just ask me and boom its done.
No one would elect the cat poster to the CIC. Go away.
If the APD did show up at these calls more than one they could stop the noise quick enough. Isn't there a public nuisance law[s] that can be used? To go to court takes a lawyer to represent the accused. Any person representing them self are usually told they are at risk and foolish to do that. The cost of a lawyers representation should be enough to stop the noise complaints in that area and beyond when the news spreads. Enough complaints to the state police and sheriffs dept. will make the APD take notice to do their job as is the law itself. The S.P.and Sheriffs will complain loud and clearly about doing another police departments job. They have enough to do on there own w/o doing more work for a failing department known as the towns police department.
We have more APD now, so maybe they couldn't get everywhere they should have been. With the money that is alotted for them, they need to make a presence everywhere in Atkinson. Isn't there police logs recorded to show calls and situations they have to handle?
I think they are doing a better job since the influx of PPD Officers. Less crime in my neighborhood. I wish they'd publish the logs all the time, in the paper. Stop the funny business.
When there is one or two cruisers out patrol one has to take over the patrol while the other is busy with one. The take over cruiser has to take a place near but not far from their own patrol area to insure response in either area that they are covering. In any case the areas of continual complaint[s] should be the most directed and taken care of. The excuse of not hearing any thing at night time is just that -an excuse. If a party calls to make a complaint of noise then there shouldn't be a continual use of excuses by officers on patrol to not to have heard noise as described by the bloggers here . May be the department members should go back to school to get a more positive approach to how to patrol their assigned areas and how to respond to where they should be located when an adjacent area is off on another call. Being close by is necessary in case of a needed back up . I know when there is need for back up and the State Police and or the Sheriffs are in the area they respond even if they aren't called from there own dispatchers. That is good police work as it should be . Most if not all crusers have and do monitor other police department calls so no one can say I'm misleading anyone in that regard. Time for the APD to do its job more efficiently and stop making excuses for their lack of true response of its calls. JMHO
is friel in jail yet
11:46 yes police logs should be published in the paper as do other Towns, but our Town likes to be different. Only write in what they want people to see and not every incident, otherwise there would be a paper trail of the people they don't want anyone to know they have seen. Get it..
11:46 & 5:26 - There is a better way of openly publishing the police doings in regards to the calls the department has responded to . The leader [so called] is responsible for the lack of publishing the daily happenings in town in the papers. If there is any openness and honesty left in town then the selectmen should make the chief publish the police logs . Wake up selectmen and respond to the taxpayers as you should on this issue. Also , it is time for a new chief as he has caused enough damage to the town with his past involvement as the chief and as a selectman.
The article is dead on, Corruption lives and thrives in Atkinson. As does Crappy Neighbors!
How nice would it be to live here without all this needless BS?
At least one neighbor was confused by the search method. Police radio put out a call for "a female who committed a suspicious act in the back yard," around 3p.m. yesterday afternoon. Police answered the call, but nothing happened. "It was just the cat lady looking for a cat," said Capt.
I can't wait for you to become a victim of your own stupidity and go away. No ankle bracelets for you, the cell is best.
The Cat lady got the Joker. haha
2:14 PM , Where did you hear the comment in your last paragraph? I don't think any officer would say some thing like that for any one to hear knowing people do monitor at least some of the police calls. Who is the "Capt." you refer to? Name that person if you have the guts because as best I know there isn't one in the APD. If you can't or wont answer these simple questions then you are a jackass that likes to pick on a woman and it shows how much a man you truly are- -a foolish jackass and the biggest A.H.blogging here.
It's just one of the town thugs. I hear they are all related, one worse than the next. Let's hope they don't spawn anymore.
must be a gene for psychopaths
Both of my cats just stride into my room and jump on things looking like they should be saying ‘You live in the wrong house mother fuvcker’ Now thats a thug!
another psychopath thug responds
This person is obsessed with this woman. Did you get rejected and can't accept no or something?
He's a stalker and he's resentful that he's incompetent at everything. He could be striking out after discovering he's the closet pansy, the weak and unchosen option. Beware of those who may be trying to use you to there own personal gain. Chump.
Oh, and is most likely is bipolar.
hard to follow...is the cat blogger the same person as the gun shooter or is he the criminal drug user?
Another huge party on meditation. Loud music, cars everywhere. I couldn't even drive through the road. Called the police over and over like I always do. Guess what...nothing!
Hmmmm. Quiet over on Sawmill except for some gunshots.
we look forward to the pd log to back up your lies.
Speaking of Medication Lane...whatsup with the motorcycle racing in the middle of the night? Is this part of the ongoing rabble rousing?
I think I smell a thug-a-sexual.
sounds gross
Thugs are like the new breed of dinosaurs Lick-a lot-apuss
Hey, moderator! Can you figure out what IP address this thug, cat-man, is coming in on and block it.
Wouldn't be surprised if the IP were associated with Atkinson Town Government. Perhaps TH, APD or heaven forbid, TRHS.
catman? I thought it was a catlady?
Hate to get overly metaphysical but they're opposite sides of the same coin, CAT.
Everything is traceable but why waste it? Better to be patient and wait for a drug induced libelous slip up that is more lucrative. Meow!
I agree that the moderator should block the IP address . The moderator seems to have forgotten the intent of this site and what was published at the beginning of the mew site now known as Atkinson Reporter 2.
They have been a few people taken down by their own stupidity and arrogance by this site. It may be deteriorating due to a few morons but this site has done a lot to expose problems in the Town. This is all done in an effort to make our Town a better place to live. For those who criticize the blog, ask them what they don't like. It's the pettiness, not the facts that have Town Officials watching thier backs. Now we need more participation to get the problems resolved.
Who are they? Are they the well known in town that are still in their positions of governing and other things? They may be among the taken down but could they be the same faces in town government and the other things within and out of town? I agree that there should be a what doesn't agree with any one has to be asked and put up on the site. I feel the trouble makers on this site IP address's should be looked into by the moderator as was posted by 729 AM.
Agree with you both, blog lets more people in Town know just what's going on behind the scenes, question is do these people that blog actually want to get more involved, or just post and read. Do yourself a favor, go ask questions, check the facts...
6:6 , Are you the moderator posting as anonymous or are you really an anonymous person?
is the moderator not a person? he's anon, like you and hopefully a person too.
I can agree with you that the moderator has the right to be anonymous but I would think he/she would say their posting is from the moderator. That does not identify him/her by name . Any one can say they are the moderator and cause a problem for that person [moderator]or some other person. From time to time the moderator should post as moderator to insure the readers he/she is actually watching and reading all other postings here.
Look at the posts he recently removed above. He seems to be reading.
Where above? I may be old and visually failing but I see no written exclusions or any other way of saying there are posts removed. Could you be one of the Medication /Meditation crowd ? Just asking is all.
My apology I didn't go far enough back in time. I thought you were saying or referring to the last few days.
np
Gee!!!!!!!! I wonder how many hypocrites went to their house of worship over this week end? These same persons should hear the words of the "Big Book and their clergy. It is raining out now as it has for most of the night and I thought I'd ask the question out of my just wondering.
I love pumkins pumkins rule if u dont like pumkins u suck. I love them in the house outside the house its just that time of year. The only problem is cats hate pumkins so i hate cats. I bought to pumkins yesterday they were so cute they looked like little softballs i love them.
I love fire works i love the noise they make and all the pretty colors when they go off. Just love them
They can't be big or of "normal every day size", not unlike you of course. That being the case did you buy small or couldn't you afford the bigger priced ones? I'm not saying your cheap but when you compare them to the biggest of cats then I can say you are more than really cheap. Remember that a pumpkin is not all that long lasting as is a cat of any size. Pumpkin cake and pie is good to the taste as compared to a cat no matter how you cook them unless you're one of those who eat cats. Do try to spell correctly in your needless attempts chief.
If you don't have anything of interest to say, stop writing, Small things amuse small minds.
Your wrong ! It is of interest to those you constantly bother with your harassing writing about cats. Why cant you write things of real interest to the readership instead of making your needless comments of cats and the lady you direct your rants towards?
He is the one with a small, you know...mind. He has nothing important going on in his life so he is making up drama. He's the drama Queen of Atkinson.
Unless this nut is a male cross dresser or favors the opposite of them self then they may be a KING and not a QUEEN. Speaking of KINGS could this person be you know who? You know who ,the one who thinks he is KING in town politics that some refer to here.
The crazies on site must have taken sick not to have any responses in two days. Lets hope they stay sick to have a better place to show our concerns w/o harassment from them.
They are afraid to post after the ip discussion. Good.
A worth while thought? Well may be the administrator should see if the towns computer[s] are being used and who is using them on this site. That would stop the "cat, Meditation/Medication, and the many insults that are detrimental to the people on this site. Once that is done and with a silent approach to the violators with exposure and the threat of losing their position[s]with probable public exposure this problem will disappear. That isn't to say they will or not use their own personal computers to continue with their harassing on this site. I believe they will not continue because of their silent exposure due to the threat of the above on the use of town computers. It has been said that a well known town official is one of the abusers. That should stop his foolish actions on this site or lose his job and pension rights with another long and embarrassing, probable, court battle to restore his rights of job and pension. JMHO.
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I like to gamble and go to the casino every now and then ,and I usually love to watch the horses but ive been so consumed by dog racing u never no whats going to happen when u take the people part of it out. U take the jockey off the horse it would be the same thing u no what i mean there just so un predictable. It would kind be the same thing if u put little numbers on chipmunks and ran them around a track. Kind of like at the fair with the pig races. I think I like that better then a person controlling the animal god we should race cats I think they would be so cute with little numbers on them id bet on them.
ou are the same AH and I hope thye Administrator, owner, or moderator goes to the IP address and does what was suggested at 8:29 AM to finally get your arse off this site once and for all. I hope it costs you plenty ,especially if your a town employed person. JMHO once again.
this is a open forum u can talk about what ever u want animals plants people cars trucks whatever u want thats a blog its not a one topic discussion everybody should relax
Is there any one on site that makes an honest effort to stop all of this crazy stuff? why can't we blog as we should w/o the nuts causing interruptions with their useless comments? The site is for use by those who are sincere about the town and its people and ,yes ,its politics. Not the insults and talk about cats. I do not see where domestic felines, male or female , are a problem to any reader here. The only problem seems to be from the "nuts" who post here. I ,too, hope the administrator / moderator or owner has the guts to do what was said here at 8:29 am. That is if they aren't afraid to do it and have no problem doing so no matter where the resolution to this problem FALLS. Get my message as written you that are in charge of the site?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This town is so wonderfull and its such a nice day I think ill take the kids and pets for a long walk and ponder if i vote 4 obama or romney such a big life changing decision and also think is ovide truly going to do what i want as a governor
2:30, Yes it is a great day for a walk! i hope you will give as much thought to what I posted . That is if your kids allow you to do that being kids as they are. //// 2:44 , I can agree that one can write about what they want ,however, I do not think or feel that this site as has been used and formulated by its published remarks at the opening of the site as being or has been what its creator of the site has published as guide lines for us to follow. Threats or not ,being openly published or not, there is what appears here that there is an implication or inference of these threats and writings openly or not in the publishing of the written statements given to the readers. I am not a person who writes to be funny if your reference to my posting. My intent wasn't to amuse any one person especially so you in particular. I thank you for your praise of me and I hope you will not let others talk you out of expressing how you feel and I hope you will express your self on this site as there doesn't seem to be that much coming from its operator. Could he/she be in fear of the towns corrupt officials as stated early on by some one?
Except for one important point. You are the only one who perpetuates this topic.
A playful badge of honor? There is nothing honorable about the comments you have made here. To go so far as to now pretend that naming an individual, her street, and accusing her of serious crimes is somehow a playful game. This is just you trying to avoid being responsible. You cannot slander a person and then say it was just a joke, it's still slander.
does anyone no where i can get a cheap oil change
Movies, animals,oil changes and other stupid remarks. Any thing to get away from the original intent of this site.
And that is the point.
It is both Sapia and the Conman.
Sapia and Conman couldn't kill the blog until these postings.
They are both belligerent, common people with limited IQs, both capable of being crude, as we have seen here.
I think it is stalking and threatening. I hope that they will get caught like our ex moderator.
10/20 @ 8:29 has the right idea that will stop the crazy postings. It would also correct any misuse of town computers by TOWN OFFICIALS and EMPLOYEES. The administrator can and should find out who they are and then tell them to stop immediately or face exposure. They can be fired or forced into an and their unwanted "retirement" to say the least by not complying . I agree that if they use their personal computer[s] to continue as they have with these abuses that they can be exposed as well.
I don't think it's a town employee, I think it's just a town troublemaker.
The pathetic drivel and slander can only come from a narcisstic few. We know who they are. No names need to be named. Slowly losing their grip on power and falling, falling. A town one election away from freedom. The old man will be gone and a new majority arise. Time is on your side. The maniacal reign of terror ends very soon. You post mindless text trying to stay relevant and fighting a lost cause that had no cause. You soon join your uninsurable friend. The slandered one becomes King.
Atkinstrodamus
True, they are in the minority and when the powerful are replaced, we will have our power back.
To be sure I do not see any of the suspected persons saying or making an attempt to deny the pointing of a finger to them. Unless these persons, who are well known to the readers here, openly deny they are the ones doing this then they are suspect and are assumed guilty. As an individual person I wouldn't want to be suspect as they are. I would openly say I am not doing these things on this or any other media site and welcome an inquiry of my ip address by any one . A good name is hard to keep these days . I guess the administrator of this site should do what he/she should with the ip address knowledge, if any, to stop all this once and for all.
I don't think anyone takes this seriously enough to defend themselves. They probably don't even read the articles here. I thought this site was shutting down finally.
Now that has to be the most stupid and thoughtless of blogged statements. The annoying poster[s] has to have read the blogs in order to respond with their unwanted remarks. The site hasn't said any thing about shutting down especially now that there are responses to look into the ip use by the anonymous,but not for long ,users that remain pests here.
Ok then...if you expect to block repeat offenders from posting here, you might also consider stopping YOUR name calling. IMO, calling people stupid is no different. It's all offensive.
Well aren"t they stupid? After all if they have nothing to hide or that they know they're not guilty then they'd say as much WOULDN'T THEY??? I'm not name calling when I'm not using a persons name. All I am saying is what every one else is and has in what you think is name calling. An ass is just that and a donkey is just that but not the animal as many on site have refered to in being descriptive of ones actions,etc.. Get the meaning and difference as yet?
One can call you these so called " names " [as you say they are] but you as it is apparent have a thin skin. If it be so offensive for you to read here then you best move on to another site or just read the E.T. for your less offensive knowledge of the real news in town. The E.T. does gloss and hold back the truest of the news so as to not to be offensive or controversial to certain towns people. Why wouldn't you want to ,as you did say above here ,block the most offensive of the "offenders" unless you be one of the guilty parties that are the offenders? That wouldn't make sense to any one reading here that read your useless thought in that regard.Sorry if I "offended "you in this response to your foolish response from above. JMHO
To 6:15 I am just as tired of reading your angry tirades as I am reading cat comments from the town fool.
This site is for discussing ( not attacking ) the political problems and issues we face as a town.
To8:11 AM, Did you make a mistake in the response to the time you seem to be answering? If so then please be more careful. After all we wouldn't want to be as dumb as others appear to be on site. If meant 6:05 PM then say so . If you can't take that persons truth then state why . Other wise keep quite and let the proper site and persons elected do their job to rid us the problems here. If anything , you should be welcoming the opportunity to rid us all of the crazies here and their rants that aren't what the site is supposed to be about. JMHO once again!
Yes I did. 8;11 reposnds to 6:05.
I will be more careful as I'd hate to appear as dumb or as rude as some here.
BTW, it's quiet not quite. NTB.
The letter of slander of Kay will leave fools wanting. Another anonymous, gutless attack. Only 2 suspects could have sent it and one put the other up to do it for plausible denial. Parking violations do not compare to reckless lying from the Narcissist. You energize her base and drive votes to her. You learned from the worst and have no conscience.
Atkinstrodamus
I support Kay.
Anyone can blog about anything, I enjoy all the uproar this is causing this site. Please read below and follow rules so no one gets in troble.
"Typically, you can say any thing that is a fact. Just make sure that everything that sounds like a fact is true. And when blogging about an individual that isn't a public figure, you need to be even more careful. In fact, it might be a good idea never to blog about an individual at all!"
I disagree. You need to be careful when blogging about public figures as well. No one signed up for public service to be beaten up by cowards hiding behind anon postings.
ps - You don't make the rules here.
Tell that one to Jerry Falwell!!
How about cowards who hide behind a badge they aren't qualified to hold?? And then abuse the badge to silence critics. THAT'S A COWARD!!!
ROTFLMAO!!!
Im going out for halloween as Batman not the new batman the old batman i like the older one better
12:08, Thank you for the correction of who you made reference to. While I welcome your correcting my mistake of the word quite you made a mistake also. If you look at the word you meant as respond [reposnds] you will agree with me that a mistake is a mistake. We both know what was meant in both of our mistakes and we understand what was meant. I see the administrator/owner of this site has made it clear in his newest remarks where he/she stands with the towns pols and the Conman we all know as the chief. He /she has written the truth and I ,as many here, hope he/she makes the selectmen to act on the Conman once and for all. I do hope he/she will use the ip address of the abusers in town politics. I still think a quite approach to these twits will not only stop their actions but will cause a change of political faces at town hall and the police department. He/she has really written and has posted the truth. If any of the selectman read the post then they will have to act even if forced to read the latest blog by other posters insistence. JMHO
That was my point. You make mistakes everyday and yet you come here and criticize everyone else. Your spelling and grammar are horrible. Also, I do not get where you find any evidence that the moderator of this site supports the Chief. Have you ever seen them take down critical comments about him. No.
To 5:36 PM - I agree cowards are cowards and if they hide behind a badge it's even worse. But all public figures are not despicable.
8:2 AM , First let me say that you say that I make mistakes every day and "yet you [I] come here every day and yet criticize everyone else". Well let me tell you this as what is supposed to be the lesser than you educationally in English writing. I have the guts to say and write what I see as truth and of my own thinking and ,yes,deepest of thoughts. You on the other hand gloss over these opinions of mine with your attempts of escaping them with your opinions. The truth is that your one who wants to over power anyone who ,in the miniscules of their given opinion, that does seem to appear as being contrary to your opinion[s]. That is or may be your right and I do accept that and ,of course, your rights to express yourself. My question then is this-- WHAT ABOUT MINE? Do you deny me of mine as opposed to yours? It does appear that way to me. I didn't say the moderator backs the chief in all of what hr does or has done. You complain to me about my writing and use of english grammar but I think you'd best reread my blog again . Your being so much the one to be number one is causing you to be the last of numbers in that regard as compared to me in what I blogged. I did not say he/she was backing the chief and every one reading this and the past and all past messages by me knows it. For some one who says they are knowledgeable of current or the past town events you appear, as you say I am, dumber than me in these regards. As for your last sentence I do not have to answer it as I already have before and now. Go away if your only wanting to be confrontational w/o being up front with me and those on the site. I'm sure we don't need another ,well, I'll let you put the word in in place of what I would have.
You said " I see the administrator/owner of this site has made it clear in his newest remarks where he/she stands with the towns pols and the Conman we all know as the chief. "
I cannot understand what you are saying because of your writing style. At least I said it politely, did not call you names and I will not fill in your blanks with expletives. I did not make half the statements you said I made. Come back to earth. You are the only one attacking here right now.
You started the attack when you misread what I said about the administrator. I'll put it in another way for you to read and,hopefully, for you to understand what was written so here goes. I agree with the administrator in his/her stance with the towns officials and in particular the chief better known as the Conman. If you don't like my writing style then when you see it on site you can ignore what is written by me. I'm sorry you can't like every thing written here by me and the many others as well but then what can one expect from such a narrow mind that only accepts only their way of thought and opinion. You have to remember that we all can't be to one anothers liking and that is what this site is all about, - making the "noise " that makes it work as a place to give opinion and suggested response among other things that are pertinent to the site and its readers. As for filling in my blank remark I did let you suggest in your mind the proper word. That does make you the one with the use of an expletive ,certainly not me. You have nerve to say that I would have said an expletive for the word I suggested you fill in. Can you read my mind and retrieve my thought of the word? Your the one with the expletive word to have used and that makes you the bad guy here,assuming your not female in gender. Bye for now as I do and would expect that you will be defensive as usual.
No not bat man maybe spiderman oh no the hulk roar roar I did hit spell check did i spell that right I just dont no who to go out as maybe ill go out as a corupt town offical was that spelled write but how would i dresss or maybe ill go out as a no life blogger yeah ill just go to the party and pick on everybody cause im better and smarter then everybody
You should do just that! Make sure you go alone.
6:16 PM - Don't you get any attention from your family? You are always on here. Don't you have a life? Are you on drugs?
no not drugs vitamins and energy drinks and god keep up this calipar of work and my cute little animals
Haven't you heard any thing about the energy drinks? They aren't safe to drink continually. They make you do and say things before knowing you're doing them. Overdosing on vitamins can make you break out in rashes and pimples. May be the vitamins are surging through your body and swelling your brain with cysts and pimples. Get a life.
calipar - funny God is brake repair person? Vitamins don't fix stupid.
Neither do the energy drinks. This person is beyond hope and/or repair mentally or physically. To Late,to late. Sad case that was self induced.
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